Xref: utzoo comp.std.internat:743 comp.mail.headers:608 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!caen!ox.com!lokkur!scs From: scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons) Newsgroups: comp.std.internat,comp.mail.headers Subject: Re: Time zone names on mail outside North America Message-ID: <1990Dec14.130316.21515@lokkur.dexter.mi.us> Date: 14 Dec 90 13:03:16 GMT References: <1990Dec13.173731.531@zoo.toronto.edu> <1990Dec13.180844.15200@mp.cs.niu.edu> <1990Dec14.000511.2507@zoo.toronto.edu> <1990Dec14.004807.10995@mp.cs.niu.edu> Organization: Inland Sea Lines: 23 rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert) writes: > I read what you said, including the second sentence. There are many user >interfaces that are useful for reading mail. I count 'cat', and 'more' >amongst them. And I don't think too many people will approve of 'fixing' >these to convert dates. Best joke I've heard all day. `We're going to keep all timestamps in local zone so our readers can use cat to read mail and not have to think about how to convert from GMT.' Oh yeah, you can read raw mailboxes with cat and more. `Possible', yes. Useful? Not compared to a real user mail agent. To do a reducto ad absurdum, ingres should be modified to keep data in ASCII with tags, so we can read it with cat. :-) If somebody wants to read the raw bits, we're under no obligation to make it simpler for them. Using a GMT and offset makes it easier on the rest the software in the world. User mail agents can't and shouldn't be expected to know every nook and cranny of time conventions. -- "SO be it! The fate of the UNIVERSE is in your hands!" "Talk about job-related stress."