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From: michaelo@jove.cs.pdx.edu (Mickael J. O'Hair)
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Subject: Re: separate SW testing newsgroup
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Date: 14 Dec 90 12:59:37 GMT
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In a word (or two): don't.  Testing is an inherent part of software engineering
and should be dicussed in the mainstream newsgroup.  Starting a separate group
would, in my opinion, serve to widen the gap between design and testing.  Over
eight years in the industry has given me concrete evidence that the "design is
creative and manufacture/testing/QA is drudge work" mentality still exists. If
we want to truly think of ourselves as engineers, then we had best consider
testing as an integeral part of the software engineering process.  Any and all
discussions of QA and testing should be held in this newsgroup.

Sorry about the evangelical tone, but I've been at three companies where the
design/QA gulf was in place and all are no longer in business.

			    -mjo-