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From: sean@utoday.com (Sean Fulton)
Newsgroups: news.admin,comp.sources.d
Subject: Re: The responsibilities of volunteers
Message-ID: <1850@utoday.com>
Date: 14 Dec 90 05:46:01 GMT
References: <1990Nov27.075737.16836@vicom.com> <10820@rayssd.ssd.ray.com> <1990Nov28.214659.26551@looking.on.ca> <2756A27D.5D54@tct.uucp> <1842@utodaycom> <1990Dec9.225810.10838@athena.mit.edu>
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In article <1990Dec9.225810.10838@athena.mit.edu> jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens) writes:
>In article <1842@utodaycom>, sean@utodaycom (Sean Fulton) writes:
>|> Let me get this straight: The Rich Salz bashers are a couple of
>|> students at Yale; the Rich Salz defenders are mostly professionals who
>|> take time away from making money to contribute to Usenet.
>|> 
>|> Does this seem strange to anyone?
>
>  It really, really annoys me when people state untruths which are so easily
>proven false.  Sean, I can't accuse you of lying, because a person can only
>lie if he knows that he is not telling the truth, and I don't know if you
>realize that the statement above just isn't true.  I will therefore simply
>show that it isn't true and let the rest of the net draw its own conclusions.
>

 [ bunch of statistics deleted ]

>However, even several such misinterpretations
>would not change the fact that there are quite a few more than "a couple
>students at Yale" asking for change in comp.sources.unix.
>

[ More stuff deleted ]

> Let's try to discuss things reasonably, people?
>

My comment had little to do with people reasonably discussing the need
for change. My comment was sparked more by a series of nasty, somewhat
belittling notes about a person who *has* contributed a great deal to
the net.

What I *said*, was that the people attacking this individual seemed to
be primarily students, and somewhat impatient ones at that, while
those defending Rich's record seemed to be professionals with a few
more years on the job. True there were nasty comments from
non-students as well, but it appeared at the time that the personal
attacks were started by a couple of people who happened to be
students.

By the way, I would not classify people who are asking for a change in
the moderation of a group as ``bashers'' of the moderator as you did.
``For'' and ``Against'' seem like suitable categories, but to lump
them in with people who make childish attacks on a moderator is really
unfair. I mean, I volunteered in  to help out. Does that
classify *me* as a basher?
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