Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!gatech!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!ericom!eos.ericsson.se!etxtomp From: etxtomp@eos.ericsson.se (Tommy Petersson) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: A European point of view (LONG) Keywords: Copy protection, games, breaking the OS Message-ID: <1990Dec10.144603.2980@ericsson.se> Date: 10 Dec 90 14:46:03 GMT References: <1990Dec6.185453.5684@cbnewsk.att.com> <1990Dec6.201824.13502@Neon.Stanford.EDU> <1990Dec7.161251.27384@cs.umu.se> Sender: news@ericsson.se Reply-To: etxtomp@eos.ericsson.se Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB Lines: 55 In article <1990Dec7.161251.27384@cs.umu.se> dvljhg@cs.umu.se (J|rgen Holmberg) writes: -Hi all! - -The article I am responding to was just a tiny bit long :-). So here are my -view on the subject. Peoples attitude towards piracy IS changing. Their -wallet size isn't --> hence piracy will remain for a long while. About the -messages asking you to buy pirated software you like. They would be a good -thing if it wasn't for the fact that they are put in by those crackers in -europe that are into organised selling of pirated software. They make big -bucks out of illegal activities and then add that disclaimer. :-( One problem is that many people have bought several lousy games for high prices, and don't want to make that same mistake again. They start to get pirated games, often made from buggy beta-versions, and won't buy "that lousy software either". In several magazines, having a disc included (like AmigaFormat), a demo version with a limited part of a game is included. You can get a fair understanding of the game and how well it is done, and decide if You want to buy it. I think this is the best way to go. Game companies must be thought to plan for a demo version of a game. The normal magazines couldn't then cope with the raized number of demos wanting to be included on the disc, so this have to be handled in a way similar to the Fish discs. It won't solve anything, but be a bit on the way. -About the price of the A3000. The price in sweden is more like $10000 for -an A3000 25Mhz 100Mb Hd machine. Basically you can buy a '486 or '040 machine -with any other OS cheaper. Add to this commodores reputation for nonexistant -service and poor marketing and you will realize that A3000 doesn't stand a -chance in sweden. I will still buy one in germany if I can afford it but the -swedish market will not do so. I don't know if the A3000 will be that expensive in Sweden (discounts are possible even in this country) but if You compare the prices for the other machines it is possible. I think that it is the last two years that the largest user poll in a big swedish computer magazine have had Commodore in a rock bottom position on support and quality. They were in a class of their own (something like 25% dis-satisfied customers compared to 12% for second place). These figures were for Commodore PC support, which is at a priority sky-high over Amiga support. It has even gone so far that Commodore Sweden one day suddenly closed down and You only had an answering machine saying something about 'reorganizing'. Sweden was made into a subsidary of Norway (what a shame). I beleive Commodore will have to keep a firmer grip on their daughter companies in other countries, the same way as Apple do (they can make some things right, they to). - -Regards, Jorgen --- -******************************************************************************* -email dvljhg@cs.umu.se - other ways to communicate are a waste of time. -Everything I say is always true, just apply it to the right reality. -"Credo, quia absurdum est." Tommy Petersson