Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!helios!tamuts!n368bq From: n368bq@tamuts.tamu.edu (Raoul Rodriguez) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Sorry Guys, There is NO WAY! Message-ID: <10727@helios.TAMU.EDU> Date: 8 Dec 90 17:39:53 GMT References: <4072@mindlink.UUCP> Sender: news@helios.TAMU.EDU Organization: Texas A&M University Lines: 58 Here it goes again... O.K... TO settle this price/performance thing, I went down to the local campus computer store (where they sell NeXT machines) to get a first hand look at the machine, and also to get the prices... And, this is what I found... There are currently 4 diffrent NeXT setups... and all 4 setups come with two diffrent Hard Drives, 105 or 340 (with the 105 you don't get a lot of software, but with 340 you get a bunch). The prices in "("'s are the educational prices, the plain prices are the retail price. The dealer wasn't sure on the last three cube setups... so they have a "+" after them... 1) The NeXTStation (The Slab) (Greyscale) - 105 HD $4,995 ($3,328) (Don't forget to add tax) - 340 HD $7,995 ($5,052) 2) The NextStation with color (up to 4032) - 105 HD $7,995 ($5,774) - 340 HD $9,995 ($7,941) 3) The Cube (Greyscale) - 105 HD $7,995 ($5,774) - 340 HD $10,000+ ($8,302) 4) The Cube w/color (16.7 million (32 bit)) - 105 HD $15,000+ ($10,194) - 340 HD $17,000+ ($12,722) The NeXTStation (Slab) is made to be unexpanded, there are no slots. The Cube however has three slots. The greyscale cube can be upgraded to color for $2995 for the board, and a 20 inch color monitor will run and additional $1850. The NeXT family uses the Scsi II interface, so, there are not that many drives out there, upgrading your storage space is moderatly difficult because there are only two companies that manufacture SCSI II drives (Quantum just jumped in, so I didn't include them), and the prices are high compared to regular SCSI. (I can get those as well) All and all, I think that the machine to compare to the A3000UX would be the NeXTStation with color, and that runs at $5774 (educ. disc) for the 105, but the 3000 comes with a 200 HD... so tack on another $1000 for 100 more megs of hard drive space for the NeXTStation (color), and the machine that compares to the 3000 actually costs ~$6,500 (educ.disc) and ~$9,000 retail (on both prices, you still need to add tax) All and all, I think we need to re evaulate the price/performance comparison... Raoul Rodriguez "People may not believe what you say, but they will always believe what you do." If you want, I can get the prices for the Amiga as well...