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From: jalkio@cc.helsinki.fi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: '030 Ami vs '040 NeXT
Message-ID: <4211.27653c06@cc.helsinki.fi>
Date: 11 Dec 90 20:05:26 GMT
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In article <90339.181031MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu>, MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> In article <4144.275c29f5@cc.helsinki.fi>, jalkio@cc.helsinki.fi says:
>>
>>In article <9012040257.AA10743@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, 91_bickingd@GAR.UNION.EDU
>>("Bicking, David") writes:
>>
>>
>>> I
>>> think it is a clear analogy that if the '030 Amiga is faster than the '030
>>> NeXT that an '040 Amiga will also be faster than an '040 NeXT, right?
>>
>>First, I haven't actually seen any objective benchmarks on 68030 NeXT
>>vs. Amiga A3000 (UX).
> 
> Check out the Byte article that has been abundantly commented on.

I just read it. DKo you think there was any BECHMARKS in it? I didn't
see any. 

But somebody just posted here some benchmarks suggesting that a 68030
Amiga (25Mhz) is actually SLOWER than a 68030 NeXT (25Mhz). I think that
seems more reliable. Maybe that guy writing the Byte article was just a
bit too enthusiastic and sneaked some misinformation in his story. I
wouldn't suggest framing that article and putting it on the wall... :-)

But well, I wouldn't actually care if the 68030 Amiga were a bit faster
than NeXT, since I will get a 68040 NeXT anyway, 68030 NeXTs aren't even
available anymore.


> 
> Actually, to be truthful I'd like to see the results of another benchmark.
> Seems that it would be no trick at all for someone with access to a 3000
> and a NeXT cube to try the benchmarks on it. Anyone?
> 
>>Second, there is no such thing as a '040 Amiga. And even if there would
>>soon be a '040 card for Amiga it wouldn't do the job as well. The
>>motherboards of the new NeXT is designed to take all out of the 68040.
>>I doubt the current Amiga motherboard is designed for the 68040.
> 
> Er, wrong. The 3000 WAS expressly designed to take advantage of the
> 68040 once it is shipping. It will be relatively easy to just drop
> in an '040 and run. And, with identical processors, the NeXT's speed
> advantage will vanish.
> 

Yeah. I have heard this about 100 times since I wrote that doubt of
mine. I was wrong - I said it already once. But let's compare the
systems when you know the prices for 68040 Amigas...

		Jouni