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From: nazgul@alphalpha.com (Kee Hinckley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: Re: Not only HP makes a mess !
Keywords: Hp-bashing, SUN.
Message-ID: <1990Dec14.034938.8533@alphalpha.com>
Date: 14 Dec 90 03:49:38 GMT
References: <995@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl>
Organization: asi
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In article <995@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl> wjw@eba.eb.ele.tue.nl (Willem Jan Withagen) writes:
>His complaints at the address of SUN resulted in an update offer which was
>very good(joke :{): 
>	Get SPARCS and return the 386i's. 
>	The discount for a returned 386i would be  around 500$. :-)
>(The machines are only ~8 months old, and the machine is only on the market 
>for about 2 years)
>
>If we set this off against HP's attitude then HP doesn't look so bad after all.
>At least we don't get shafted this bad if we have old products. And they try
>to push new products, they make it sound reasonable.

Sun's upgrade and compatibility support has always been horrendous.
Apollo always tried to be quite good about compatibility (from the
inside I thought we were, I'm not sure how it looked on the outside;
upgrades weren't an option, but your software continued to run for
a long time, and old machines were supported for a long time).  I think
the that one of the reason the current situation pisses people off so
much is that HP has tossed those policies out the window - they
remind us far too much of Sun.  Maybe the only way to succeed in this
business is to screw your customers, but frankly I'd rather fail.
But we'll see.  I have a feeling things may change.

						-kee
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I'm not sure which upsets me more; that people are so unwilling to accept
responsibility for their own actions, or that they are so eager to regulate
everyone else's.