Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!unsvax!uns-helios!alfter From: alfter@uns-helios.nevada.edu (SCOTT ALFTER) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Prodos & Apple II+ Message-ID: <2461@unsvax.NEVADA.EDU> Date: 11 Dec 90 22:37:27 GMT References: <86711@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> Sender: news@unsvax.NEVADA.EDU Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services Lines: 22 Your dealer, like most dealers when it comes to the Apple II, is feeding you a line of bullshit. The ProDOS 8 kernel has always required no more than 64K, so if you have a language card in your II Plus, you should be all set. The ProDOS 8 System Utilities that come with the system disk do require 128K, however. Older versions of the system disk had two programs, Filer and Convert, on them that will work on your II Plus; you should hang onto a copy. (Personally, I think Davex is better than any of the above; the only thing Davex won't do is copy stuff between DOS 3.3 and ProDOS. I also need to figure out how to patch the "init" external command to make 38-track disks. Has anybody done this already?) As for getting new system software, you should be able to take any system disk you presently have and get the new software for free from your dealer. If he gives you grief about it, (1) get the system software from an online service such as GEnie and (2) fire off a letter to Apple complaining about your local dealer's lousy service. Scott Alfter-----------------------------_/_---------------------------- / v \ Apple II: Internet: alfter@uns-helios.nevada.edu ( ( the power to be your best! GEnie: S.ALFTER \_^_/