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From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Duet...WHY NOT?!
Message-ID: <3144.276ba47e@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>
Date: 16 Dec 90 21:44:45 GMT
References: <4216@vela.acs.oakland.edu>
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In article <4216@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz) writes:
> 3) CirTech can be the company to revive the Apple IIgs.  By releasing a low
> cost Mac Card, people will be able to buy a "low cost" (relatively) computer
> that emulates the Apple II, IBM (with TransWarp), and Macintosh.
> PEOPLE WILL GO FOR THIS!!!

This really isn't a very valid reason. The only people that will buy the card 
are people who already have a IIgs and want to run some MAC stuff. If 
someone is looking for a new computer that runs both Mac and Apple II 
software, they will invest in a Mac LC. (Which would cost less than an 
Apple IIgs with the Duet, I can't imagine them getting the card out the 
door for less than $400-$500 dollars, especially if it comes with a 68020.)

> Keep in mind that the IIgs emulates the IIe at the speed of the clock (2.8mHz
> or faster based on your accellerator...The Mac LC will only run IIe stuff
> at 1mHz).

The emulator card runs at 1 and 2 MHz, which for Apple II stuff, is plenty 
fast. (How fast do schools need to run Appleworks at, anyway? And the 
education software for II will probably be not to useable at 2 MHz, 
especially the old software that won't take this into account. I could 
imagine the screams from students on how fast timers go by in their prgs 
now. "The timer said I had ten seconds left, but went by like it was 5!!")

> 4) CirTech will not have to worry about future incompatibility with the IIgs
> since Apple will probably never release a new version of the computer.
> 
> I think it is a good idea!  If any others have comments or reasons, post them
> for everyone to see.  I think if CirTech weighs the pros and cons, they can
> come out ahead in this deal.  THIS COULD ALSO SCREW APPLE BECAUSE IT WILL PUT
> THEIR PRECIOUS MACINTOSH AND PLANS TO TOTALLY ALIENATE IIGS OWNERS IN A 
> DIFFICULT POSITION.

Do you really want to screw over the company that brought the Apple into 
existence?  They are making plenty of money off of their Mac lines, and the 
only reason they are still supporting the IIgs is because of schools 
investments in them. (They still are supporting them, you remember the 
newest version of the System and Finder, don't you?)

> Apple may have to support the IIgs afterall.  If this happens, it will not only
> benefit CirTech, but all other companies which are supportive of the II in
> any shape or form, and it will benefit the Loyal Apple users, who need all
> the support (whether from Apple or other sources) they can get.

Apple is making the smart move, even though a lot of people may not agree 
with it. The IIgs and IIs cannot compete in todays world, and Apple fears 
that if they don't get some high-powered equipment into the schools now, 
schools will start purchasing IBMs. (Ohhhhh nooooo!!!!)


BTW what are the current prices for IIgs's, anyway?

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