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From: bb@sandbar.cis.ufl.edu (Brian Bartholomew)
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Subject: Re: Dream System
Keywords: Rolls Royce, but poor marketing...
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Date: 12 Dec 90 06:39:11 GMT
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jlol@REMUS.EE.BYU.EDU (Jay Lawlor) & paul@actrix.gen.nz (Paul Gillingwater)

> The Series 800 is based on HP-PA, which is RISC.  The series 300 and
> 400 are 680x0, which is CISC.

Oops.  Foot-in-newsfeed syndrome.  The comparison I drew was between
Sun 4 (RISC) and 800 (RISC, I now learn).  I still want to see
SPECmarks between equally-priced systems.


jlol@REMUS.EE.BYU.EDU (Jay Lawlor)

> HP's getting better in this area.  You can't catch up all at once.
> Otherwise you'd have bug distribution lists the size of Sun's lists.

I have heard reports that HP is funding some academic institution in
Utah to port true BSD to the 400 line.  Jay, could this perhaps be
your institution?  If so, are you able (legally and properly) to make
a progress report to this newsgroup?

> Well, we have R3 and are running an R4 server from HP that works
> great.

All of our (CIS, Math) Suns are completely running R4.  This would be
an empty point save that I am told the R3->R4 upgrade mainly consisted
of bug fixes.  The (non-)reliability of R2 on the 345's seems to
suggest that as well.

> I guess it depends on where you live.  The ee dept here won't buy any
> more Suns because of the "quality" of support they received.  Our HP
> support has been much better.

Uh, what was your rep's name again?  :-)


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