Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!uunet!midway!ellis.uchicago.edu!xdab From: xdab@ellis.uchicago.edu (David Baird) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: I want an h-bar!!! Message-ID: <1990Dec11.214636.3441@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: 11 Dec 90 21:46:36 GMT References: <1990Dec10.174201.5648@ariel.unm.edu> <1990Dec10.221136.6559@agate.berkeley.edu> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Distribution: comp.sys.mac.apps Organization: University of Chicago Lines: 54 In article hedstrom@sirius.UVic.CA (Brad Hedstrom) writes: >In article <1990Dec10.221136.6559@agate.berkeley.edu> gezelter@garnet.berkeley.edu (Dan Gezelter) writes: > The Belmont font used by MathType does have an h-bar. > >[stuff deleted] > > Also, as Jose Suarez(suarez@as.arizona.edu) pointed out, glueing > h-bars from mathtype into the body of your text (single spaced) runs > into a baseline overhang problem that makes the line spacing look > atrocious. > >[stuff deleted] > > Erik O'Shaughnessy > eoshough@nmsu.edu > >[stuff deleted] >========================================================================== > >This is the infamous MS Word ignore-the-baseline-info-in-the-clipboard >bug which is further complicated by the "improvement" in Word 4 where >PICTs are vertically enlarged when super/subscripted. I had numerous >correspondences with Microsoft over a period of months and their final >conclusion was that it was Design Science's (MathType) fault. It was >of little consequence that Expressionalist also suffered the same >problem and other word processors (e.g. WriteNow, Nisus) DID use the >baseline information and worked fine with equation editors. Why blast Microsoft when they built into their program, from at least version 3.00x days, a way to control line spacing and character positon? >Basically they said "We're so damn big, we don't give a shit!" Okay, >it's not a quote but that was certainly how it ended. Are you going to take on Apple/Claris for marketing an academic word processor that did not provide for any kind of footnoting. Even in MacWrite II the program designers did not provide for a way to easily format the appearance of footnotes. >Brad Hedstrom, University of Victoria, ECE Dept. >Internet: hedstrom@sirius.uvic.ca >UUCP: ...!{uw-beaver,ubc-vision}!uvicctr!hedstrom I'm sorry, but I have no tolerance for Microsoft bashing when the other programs out there have less features than Word, and when people don't want to learn Word to use the features it has to work around the shortcomings of the program. [Now if only Word would give me spacing control in increments of 1/1,000 of an M space.] -- X-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-X X David Baird xdab@midway.uchicago.edu X X University of Chicago d-baird@uchicago.edu X X University Computing Organizations (312) 702-7161 X