Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!lll-winken!unixhub!shelby!unix!llustig!objy!drew From: drew@objy.com (Drew Wade) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Re: Norton Bug Alert Message-ID: <1990Dec15.032810.15921@objy.com> Date: 15 Dec 90 03:28:10 GMT References: <90346.202757GHGAQA0@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be> Organization: Objectivity Inc. Lines: 29 I can't duplicate the bug cited above (speed disk resulting in two files using same physical part of disk), but I have seen the following happen, three times on two different macs: QM Administrator (quickmail, CESoftware) crashed. I run Disk First Aid (Apple's program to check fsys structures on disk, which i try to run after every crash...surprising how often programs crash with files open and...trash some directory structure or something), it reports something needs fixing (that's all it ever says, never explains what), i say fix it. I run Norton's Disk Doctor, it finds a couple serious things wrong (volume bit map, and something blocks...i wrote it down, but not with me now...), i say fix it. I re-run disk first aid, it reports problem (again!), i say fix it... u get the idea? Each program "fixes" something, which causes the other program to see something wrong and "fix" it...they fight each other! So, who's right? I called Norton and they seemed unknowledgeable and uninterested in help ing. Since Apple wrote the file system, i would tend to trust their file system checker (disk first aid) in such a dispute...but bottom line: i backed up entire disk (daisy chained another hard disk), reformatted, and restored, to be safe. Then, of course, both disk first aid and norton agree that disk is good. Anyone else seen this? Any ideas what it might be? -- ---- Drew Wade drew@objy.com