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From: bschmidt@bnr.ca (Ben Schmidt)
Subject: Re: MacTCP Conflict with Std TelNet?
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References:<5346@crystal9.UUCP> <276511E7.3FF5@intercon.com>
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 90 15:51:13 GMT

In article <276511E7.3FF5@intercon.com> kdb@macaw.intercon.com (Kurt 
Baumann) writes:
> In article <5346@crystal9.UUCP>, derosa@motcid.UUCP (John DeRosa) writes:
> > My Question: am I doing something wrong or is there a conflict?
> > What is the exact nature of the conflict?
> 
> The problem is that you will be able to use the NCSA telnet first and 
> then use whatever uses MacTCP second, but then will not be able to go back 
> to the NCSA telnet.  The reason is that MacTCP does not release the card 
> totally.  NCSA telnet does.  Hope this helps?

John, yah, it's a headache. :^(  We treat it like this:  Our users can run 
non-MacTCP or MacTCP telnet as they wish.  But as part of the 
NetNewsReader install, we tell them convert to MacTCP telnet or don't 
bother with the newsreader install.  Draconian, but sure simplifies 
things.    :^)

'Course they can ignore this advice.  If they have problems, we just tell 
them to reboot between MacTCP and non-MacTCP applications until they see 
the light and get arount to ensuring that all their IP applications are 
MacTCP based.  Usually they see the light fairly quickly.   :^)

Since most of our Macs are currently on LocalTalk behind DDP/IP gateways, 
conversion to MacTCP is not as painful as it might be.  We distribute a 
pre-configured and "protected" copy of MacTCP which works behind any 
DDP/IP gateway, with no user configuration possible or necessary.  They 
drop this in their System Folder, reboot and fire up a MacTCP-based telnet.

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