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From: ack@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Andy J. Williams)
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Subject: Re: INIT problems on my IIsi
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Date: 8 Dec 90 05:29:56 GMT
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>a544@mindlink.UUCP (Rick McCormack) writes:
>>In article, Jens Johansen writes:

>>I am trying to use the following INITs:

>>GateKeeper, GateKeeper Aid, init cdev, Jasmine, After Dark (older version),
>>AltCDEF, DfaultD 2.03, Flash-It 2.0, InUse cdev 2.0,PseudoFPU, QuicKeys,
>>SoundMaster, SUM Shield INIT, WindowShade, ~atm 2.0, SuperSpool, DeskPict,
>>Icon Wrap 1.2, Facade, Color Cursor, and 32 Bit QuickDraw.

If I read things correctly (that you are using a IIsi) here are some
observations:

1) you don't need 32bit quickdraw. It is built into the si.

2) Get the newer After Dark. Even flat out 2.0 has some trouble with
   the si (what is the latest? 2.0t or something? I never bothered to
   call in, still have my regular 2.0 on my si...)

3) INITs that might be pushing it on an si: WindowShade, AltCDEF, DfailtD,
   old QuicKeys (do you have 2.0?)... (I haven't tested these, this is more
   gut feeling...)

4) In general, are all INITs up to date? Latest Versions? The general
   rule of thumb I use with INITs is: If you can survive without it,
   survive without it. I got a lot of crashes when I first got my si.
   I updated everything (I know, I haven't gotten around to updating
   AD... but I just don't use the modules that cause trouble. Besides,
   I'm addicted to satori!) and I just tossed the stuff I could live
   without.

>>32 Bit QuickDraw never ran, and I'm not too worried about that yet because
>>I don't need it yet...  I would just like to know why.

Isn't needed, see above.

>The main problem is that all the inits after SuperSpool (in alphabetical
>order) fail to load up.  Am I just trying to load too darned many INITs or
>or is there another, more cryptic reason?  And how can it be fixed?
>***end quote***

No such thing as too many, excepting how much memory you have. If you only have
2mb, then hell yes you are loading too many. SoundMaster alone can be an
incredible hog.

Now, for the reply to your posting...

>Yup, sure looks like you are exceeding the 15 init restriction.  Does that
>still apply to 6.07?  Sounds like time to investigate MasterJuggler or Suitcase
>II, eh?

I think you are just a little confused. There is a 15 item limit on
DESK ACCESSORIES not INITs. You can stuff your System folder as full as you
wish according to how much memory you have. Have 17 mbs? Go for it. Boot
it up and take a 3 week vacation to Tibet and come back. It should be
ready to roll. Have only 2mb, then chill out and get some SIMMs or toss
useless inits.

My $0.02 worth.

-A

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