Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wuarchive!mit-eddie!uw-beaver!milton!ogicse!zephyr.ens.tek.com!tektronix!nosun!qiclab!m2xenix!quagga!ctk1!proxima!frcs!paul From: paul@frcs.UUCP (Paul Nash) Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386 Subject: Re: UNIX and security Message-ID: <235@frcs.UUCP> Date: 12 Dec 90 06:57:16 GMT References: <1990Nov30.025126.12879@fiver> <168@raysnec.UUCP> <1990Dec10.130840.17449@pegasus.com> <36@unigold.UUCP> Organization: Flagship Wide Area Networks (Pty) Ltd Lines: 32 Thus spake richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk): > > I do find it telling that the first C2 certified system (Gould) and > >the first B1 certified system (System V/MLS) were UNIX systems. > > What's so telling about Unix having something added to it before other > operating systems? Name another OS where source code is available. Try IBM's VM/SP. This is (was last time I saw it) _distributed_ as source code (/370 assembler, but it is source). It is also _far_ less secure (in terms of ease of beak-in) and far more difficult to administer than _any_ *nix that I have encountered (including early Xenix's). Spake lance@unigold.UUCP (Lance Ellinghouse): > I am sick and tired of hearing everyone say SCO's C2 > is not worth anything... Here is an example of someplace > it *DID* help... > > Over the next week or two, we had the line locked/disabled > by C2 every couple days... Finnaly it stopped for no reason. The last VM I worked on (VM/SP 4, circa 1988) also had this charming feature, and it didn't have C2 security! Maybe you should rather buy an IBM lameframe, and you can have dead dial-ups most of the time :->. ---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=---=--- Paul Nash Flagship Wide Area Networks (Pty) Ltd paul@frcs.UUCP ...!uunet!ddsw1!proxima!frcs!paul