Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!midway!delphi!bob From: bob@delphi.uchicago.edu (Robert S. Lewis, Jr.) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Re: The buzzards of Hinkley Message-ID: <1990Dec12.164247.27830@midway.uchicago.edu> Date: 12 Dec 90 16:42:47 GMT References: <1990Dec9.010930.15344@redpoll.neoucom.edu> <2510@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <1990Dec10.170017.26347@midway.uchicago.edu> <10775@helios.TAMU.EDU> Sender: news@midway.uchicago.edu (News Administrator) Reply-To: bob@delphi.UUCP (Robert S. Lewis, Jr.) Distribution: rec.birds,usa Organization: University of Chicago Lines: 15 In article <10775@helios.TAMU.EDU> e343gv@tamuts.tamu.edu (Gary Varner) writes: >let me >emphasize that the vultures and condors _are_ raptors. "Raptor" is >actually a functional rather than a phylogenetic category. The owls >on the one hand and the hawk and falcon families (which includes >everything from eagles and buteos to kites and kestrels, _as_well_as_ >vultures_and_condors_) are now thought to be examples of convergent >evolution: Just as a sidelight: I've heard that some ornithologists now consider the New World Vultures to be related more closely to storks than to the other falconiform species.