Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!rutgers!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: nobody@Kodak.COM (Rick Lafford (x37825)) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Iraqi Bomber Question Message-ID: <1990Dec8.223144.28974@cbnews.att.com> Date: 8 Dec 90 22:31:44 GMT Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 35 Approved: military@att.att.com From: nobody@Kodak.COM (Rick Lafford (x37825)) Organization: Eastman Kodak Co. In response to Charles Bergmans item. The Iraqi Airforce is indeed a force to watch but it is neither so large or so capable as Charles note might lead one to believe. First of all most of the aircraft are not front line capable and have degraded systems due to vintage, foreign purchase options and lack of repair parts. Second, the Il-76 probably does not have very sophisticated look-down capability which leaves it open to destruction by F-117 attack. Three, I believe that the NATO navys have developed so rather effective ECM countermeasures against Exocet attack as well as having the CLAWS systems onboard most ships which the Stark did not have. As for the rest of the story, the Iraqi pilots have shown little inclination to venture anywhere near intense anti-aircraft fire or missile defences. This rules out conventional ordinance and also laser guided munitions, due to the requirement to hang around long enough for the missile to get to the target. I personally do not feel that many Iraqi aircraft will escape the notice of the AWACS aircraft, avoid the Airforce, surprise the Navy CAP and have their limited number of Exocets get through the ECM and CLAWS systems. Note that this is a personal opinion based on a limited knowledge of the various layers of the system. I would welcome any dialog either pro or con. All this is stimulating but I sure hope no one ever knows for sure. Rick Lafford Don't use my return address!!!!!! Eastman Kodak Co. lafford@serum.Kodak.Com