Path: utzoo!attcan!uunet!bellcore!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: honig@ics.uci.edu (David Honig) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Avoiding draft by being gay Summary: Rape? Message-ID: <1990Dec12.031537.10638@cbnews.att.com> Date: 12 Dec 90 03:15:37 GMT References: <1990Dec7.011900.1441@cbnews.att.com> <1990Dec8.222759.28503@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Organization: UC Irvine Department of ICS Lines: 44 Approved: military@att.att.com From: honig@ics.uci.edu (David Honig) In article <1990Dec8.222759.28503@cbnews.att.com> rja@Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Allen) writes: >From: rja@Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Allen) > >In article <1990Dec7.011900.1441@cbnews.att.com> PAISLEY%auvm.auvm.edu@VM1.gatech.edu writes: >+From: >+Since the US Armed Forces do not accept homosexuals into its ranks, claiming >+to be gay may become a much-used method of avoiding the draft (should it >+be re-instituted). Does anyone know how the military would screen draftees >+who claimed to be gay? Surely, there must be some requirement to prove >+this and a way to prove it, so it won't be used as a way to avoid service. > > A person I was acquainted with, who was in the Marines in Vietnam, said > some people tried this while he was in boot camp. Reportedly the Drill > Instructors forced the claimees to perform oral sex on them. If "forced", this would constitute rape. I don't believe the military condones this? The claimees could say that they aren't interested in the Sargeant... [mod.note: Further, it would seem that the sergeant could not possibly take this test far enough to prove or disprove anything, without disqualifying himself from service. 8-) - Bill ] > Whether this is an urban legend remains to be seen, but, it's not in- > concievable. > Robert Allen, rja@sun.com DISCLAIMER: I disclaim everything. Would claiming that one had a substance abuse problem keep one out? Before induction I can imagine it would; afterwards it might lead to various within-service "therapies", but if you persisted, its hard to see how you could be trusted to be reliable. I've read that in the 60's you could smoke a joint at your physical and they'd take you, they were so desparate to throw corpses at Vietnam; given current attitudes this might be seen as a more heinous offense. -- David Honig "The complexity of the brain boggles the mind. Obviously."