Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!ucsd!pacbell.com!att!cbnews!cbnews!military From: plains!umn-cs!LOCAL!thornley@uunet.UU.NET (David H. Thornley) Newsgroups: sci.military Subject: Re: Battleships Message-ID: <1990Dec14.003530.28861@cbnews.att.com> Date: 14 Dec 90 00:35:30 GMT References: <1990Dec8.222030.27569@cbnews.att.com> <1990Dec12.032833.12370@cbnews.att.com> Sender: military@cbnews.att.com (William B. Thacker) Followup-To: soc.history Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis - CSCI Dept. Lines: 36 Approved: military@att.att.com From: plains!umn-cs!LOCAL!thornley@uunet.UU.NET (David H. Thornley) [mod.note: Followups to soc.history, please. I think this clarifies the situation enough for sci.military. - Bill ] In article <1990Dec12.032833.12370@cbnews.att.com> phil@hpsmdca.corp.hp.com (Philip Walden) writes: > > >From: phil@hpsmdca.corp.hp.com (Philip Walden) > >>From: "Thomas A. McGowan" >> >> But the "T" is not perfect. In the battle of Trafalgar (sp), admiral >>Nelson of the Royal Navy blasted the spanish by charging into the "T" > >Spanish? Trafalgar? Perhaps you have the wrong battle or Country. > >Nelson fought the French fleet at Trafalgar. > You're both right :-), it was a mixed French-Spanish force. Nelson split his fleet into two columns, essentially giving the allies the crossing to two British Ts simultaneously. Had the French and Spanish been prepared (in various senses of the word) to use this opportunity, Nelson's force as well as Nelson would have been toast. The moral of this engagement is not "Be aggressive," but rather "Know your enemy." What Nelson succeeded in doing was to split the allied force into separate parts, and overwhelm the upwind parts before the downwind parts could get back into action, a plan of battle not suited for later wars (he also relied on the short effective range of gunnery of his day - much has been said about ship's armor, but the ships of Nelson's day were much better armored against their own guns than ships of almost any later period). DHT