Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!aramis.rutgers.edu!athos.rutgers.edu!christian From: tywang@cs.washington.edu (Tak Yin Wang) Newsgroups: soc.religion.christian Subject: Re: Missed Point Message-ID: Date: 17 Dec 90 00:03:51 GMT Sender: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu Organization: University of Washington Computer Science Lines: 51 Approved: christian@aramis.rutgers.edu In article billy@tcom.stc.co.uk (Billy Khan) writes: >difference was that he was the son of God. Jesus could have had all his >super amazing Godly powers if he had wanted them. But he came to earth as a >....................... he prayed to God about first, he didn't do them >through his own power. He was just as human as you and I. When you say "jesus could have had all his .....Godly powers if he had wanted them", do you really think he was still just as human as you and I. >he was). There are plenty of documented miracles (apart from the bible... >mainly the Romans). Personnally I would like to see a man, who gets beaten up >so bad that not even his mum could recognise him, gets whipped with a >vicious roman style whip til ........ [stuff deleted] Does this necessarily mean that he is the God which is described in the Bible? His sacrifice doesn't mean that he is God either, could you use your limited knowledge or power to judge if that power really came from God besides you believe it subjectively deep inside your heart? In other words, is your knowledge or power enough to judge if those incidence were really done by God, but not done by some other superior being, other than God(if exists)? >..'If you were some one who was trying their hardest to stop people >becoming christians, wnat would you do?' Why do most of the Christians always want to assert what you think that is good on others? Did not you realize that if you ruin one's faith in something, like disproving his belief, you probably will drive him crazy? I don't like to persuade people to or not to become a Christian, but I would ask them to clarify to themselves about their own belief, to make sure they believe in a open mind, to make sure they live happily. There may be a lot of Gods, or only one benevolent God, or only one very cruel and meany God..... etc. Personally, if NOT believing in him gonna make me guilty, I would say that is a very meany, cruel, unreasonable, non-loving, stupid God. I know this gonna make some of you angry, but calm down a little bit first, this is my own feeling, I am not telling or asking you to agree or believe in that, so, you can treat me bull-shiting if you don't like it, don't send me mail concerning with this 'cause this means you don't understand what I am talking about. (I would really much appreciate some other comments on the other part of this news.) Please remember the conditional case above, "IF", it is just unacceptable to me as well as unacceptable to Christians if I say there is no God. I also prefer a benevolent, reasonable and loving God, if he is not all-knowing..... this is another story. Tak Yin Wang (Wilfred) Remarks: It is said that the lonely eagle flies to the mountain peaks while the lowly ant crawls the ground, but cannot the soul of ant soar as high as the eagle? -- fortune.