Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!apple!agate!eos!data.nas.nasa.gov!news From: hugh@chook.ua.oz.au (Hugh Garsden) Newsgroups: soc.religion.eastern Subject: Re: Question on detachment Keywords: Buddhism Message-ID: <1990Dec10.024959.15785@nas.nasa.gov> Date: 10 Dec 90 02:49:59 GMT References: <1990Nov29.005643.6034@nas.nasa.gov> Sender: news@nas.nasa.gov Reply-To: hugh@chook.ua.oz.au (Hugh Garsden) Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA Lines: 62 Approved: prabhu@amelia.nas.nasa.gov In article <1990Nov29.005643.6034@nas.nasa.gov>, pur-ee!surge@en.ecn.purdue.edu (PhD-in-Training) writes: |> I am a novice to Buddist ideas and there is one question that has |> been gnawing at me about detachment. I understand (to some |> extent) that attachment to objects in this world leads to misery |> or unsatisfaction (the first noble truth) and that detachment |> from desire is the first step to freedom from this misery and |> cycle of birth. However, if I imagine myself completely detached |> emotionally from all things and desiring almost nothing, don't I |> lose a quality of being alive? If you want to understand detachment, in my opinion about the best example we have in modern times is Gandhi. I recommend you read some books about him, and also anything that he wrote himself. My favourites are - "Gandhi: The Man" E. Easwaran "All Men Are Brothers" Gandhi Being detached does not mean that you don't care, or that you don't love. Because modern man equates love with desire, romance, or sex, he/she also then assumes that loving someone means wanting them. However, truly loving someone, what psychologists call unconditional love, implies the capability to give without receiving. It does not need to be requited. This is simplifying it a bit, a good book on the subject is "Unconditional Love" by John Powell. Also "The Art of Loving" by Erich Fromm. I also recommend "Fear of Freedom" by Erich Fromm, which describes in part why human beings are afraid of unconditional love, why they afraid of detachment. Basically, it is because human beings are afraid of being free, not externally, but internally. This is a very important point, no human being can acheive detachment without first being strong and secure enough within themselves so that they can detach themselves from humanity but at the same time then turn around and give themselves back to humanity, without holding anything back, and without fear. Detachment really implies _giving_ without the need for receiving. And giving, in the spirit of love, compassion, and caring, can make us happier than any amount of getting. Once again Gandhi is a prime example. He was burning with love and joy for all mankind, but at the same time non-attached. He gave his life, he gave everything he had, and was probably the happiest man alive because of it. He was free!! I think the reason most people can't understand detachment is because they can't like or love someone unless they are attached to them. They can't love someone unless they are "in love" with them. The idea of a one-way exchange is inconceivable, mainly because of our current obsession with the market i.e. buying and selling. Your statement that becoming detached means you lose the feeling of being alive indicates you think that desiring is a necessary prerequisite for feeling alive. However, this is simply a particular view which it is possible to change. It is difficult, and I haven't done it myself, but I have no doubt that it can be done. Hope this helps. ----- Hugh Garsden University of Adelaide hugh@cs.adelaide.edu.au