Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ames!eos!eugene From: eugene@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Eugene Miya) Newsgroups: comp.benchmarks Subject: Re: Interlanguage comparison Keywords: calibration Message-ID: <7730@eos.arc.nasa.gov> Date: 21 Dec 90 09:08:57 GMT References: <7729@eos.arc.nasa.gov> Reply-To: eugene@eos.UUCP (Eugene Miya) Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Calif. Lines: 21 BTW: In case you missed the thread I am trying to show (that included the summary of an unknown program (acutally EMPTY) using HPM Group 0). Let me give you a few hints of things to come. 1) Starting with this calibration (not a fair one we shall see, but it appears fair), I'll add (really) simple work. 2) I'll try to show real examples of "over-optimization." 3) How to work around one or two of these. 4) Try to show hardware and software artifacts. 5) Considering sampling strategies: one or two proposals which might be radical. 6) Show how a few programs might have deceptive execution. 7) Consider interesting analogies of performance measurement (Mine are photography: Muybridge [Stanford], Edgerton [MIT & EG&G]. Rafael's is audio equipment. Othersm might use cars. etc.) 8) Cover real "hard" topics like parallelism, data flow languages and machines, equivalence, timing scope, synchronization. Etc. But first, skiing and climbing. --e.n. miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@eos.arc.nasa.gov {uunet,mailrus,most gateways}!ames!eugene AMERICA: CHANGE IT OR LOSE IT.