Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!casbah.acns.nwu.edu!accuvax.nwu.edu!nucsrl!telecom-request From: pacbell!pb2esac!prahrens@mips.com Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom Subject: Distinctive Ringing Message-ID: <15553@accuvax.nwu.edu> Date: 20 Dec 90 03:04:13 GMT Sender: news@accuvax.nwu.edu Organization: Pacific*Bell ESAC, San Francisco, Ca. Lines: 59 Approved: Telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 10, Issue 894, Message 10 of 10 Recent dicussion has produced: >In another bit of PacBell stupidity, I recently tried to get >distinctive ringing on my single line... >Is this Catch-22 idiocy nationwide, or is it only PacBell that has >this problem? >[Moderator's Note: ComStar, also known as Intellidial in some areas and >Starline in others is tariffed as a service for 2 or more actual lines >in a group. Many or most of the features in ComStar would not work >with just one line. In fact having only two lines makes ComStar a >little bit of an overkill. It may be that PacBell only has Distinctive >Ringing available through ComStar at present. I know Illinois Bell >could not offer Distinctive Ringing until recently when they upgraded >their software. They did offer it in Centrex and Starline service, but >not on single residential lines until ahout two months ago. PAT] Once again, I write as an interested reader of your newsgroup, not as a representative of any telecommunications company. Your note is essentially correct. The intended purpose of "Distinctive Ringing" is to provide a difference in the alerting of intragroup vs. intergroup (i.e., incoming from the outside world) calls, together with bells and whistles* -- actually additional ringing patterns -- to distinguish attendant calls, etc. This is implemented in 1/1A ESS via Centrex, so calls from outside the Centrex group are distinguished from those from within. The current generation of digital switches require a different strategy to obtain this business objective. The RBOC's are making a serious effort to deliver "Centrex-like" services to smaller users. Commstar (and I presume Intellidial) were the earliest efforts to accomplish this. Now RBOC's are making a business decision to make Centrex available to POTS customers ... even when the transition is transparent to the user, this usually entails assigning the formerly POTS line to a Centrex group. (As an aside, I expect that ISDN will experience a similar "downward evolution" by the turn of the century.) In the case of your poster, notice he has only one line. The presence of an intragroup call is thus illogical (from this feature's point of view) and there is no basis for distinctive ringing as the vendors have defined it. I would humbly like to point out that the RBOC's do not in general design these features. Rather, the features are the result of consultation, discussion, and review among the Bellcore Client Companies, vendors such as Northern Telecom and ATT, and so on. Quite often, the feature the user "sees" is a set (some would say "kludge") of these design-by-committee features. *Pun intended. Merry Christmas, Pete Ahrens