Path: utzoo!attcan!telly!lethe!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!wuarchive!rex!samsung!munnari.oz.au!brolga!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!oat!qut.edu.au!zctsfisher From: zctsfisher@qut.edu.au Newsgroups: comp.lang.fortran Subject: The Standard for Fortran 77 (Re: intrinsic) Message-ID: <1990Dec20.112143.21877@qut.edu.au> Date: 20 Dec 90 16:21:43 GMT Organization: Queensland University of Technology Lines: 43 During the recent discussion on "Intrinsics" I found the number of postings quoting other than the actual Standard very disappointing. The standard for Fortran 77 is of course ANSI X3.9-1978 and this standard is easily accessible and clear. It takes only a small effort to learn your way around it. There is no need to debate, as this group often does, what is in the standard. It is only necessary to read it. (There are of course parts of the standard where the meaning of the standard is debatable but that is another matter. There is no other authority.) Given the interest in this group in maintaining standards may I urge readers to get a copy of the standard, learn your way around it and do as I do and use it as your reference manual. (It doesn't take long to learn to ignore every second page - the little used Subset Language.) I only go to compiler supplier's handbooks when I specifically wish to do something which cannot be done efficiently in proper Fortran or when the compiler appears to be wrong. In the latter case if the different interpretation of the compiler is not listed by its supplier as a known variation from the standard it should be reported as an error. The standard may not be the ideal as a learning text so other books designed for this purpose have their place but they should be abandoned once the basics are learnt. We can all learn too by occasionally browsing right through the standard. It is amazing to discover that facilities exist we have not used which overcome supposed deficiencies in the language. In brief, if you have not read it in the Standard you cannot say authoritatively what is Standard no matter what other source you have used and we should all strive to be authoritative. W.J.G.(Bill) FISHER, Director, Computing Services (Gardens Point), Queensland University of Technology Mail P.O. Box 2434 Ph (Inatl) (61+7) 223 2123 (w) Brisbane (61+7) 378 2810 (h) Queensland 4001 Fax (61+7) 221 1461 Australia Internet w.fisher@qut.edu.au Telex AA44699 VAX PSI 505272223015::W.FISHER