Xref: utzoo comp.lang.postscript:7049 gnu.misc.discuss:2133 Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!uwm.edu!uwvax!sevenlayer.cs.wisc.edu!bothner From: bothner@sevenlayer.cs.wisc.edu (Per Bothner) Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript,gnu.misc.discuss Subject: Re: Ghostscript: The bad news Message-ID: <1990Dec18.064308.18526@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Date: 18 Dec 90 06:43:08 GMT References: <1990Dec16.104300.12930@pegasus.com> <1990Dec17.145953.15161@rodan.acs.syr.edu> Sender: news@spool.cs.wisc.edu (The News) Followup-To: gnu.misc.discuss Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept Lines: 45 (I'm posting to quash mis-informed rumor-mongerering, though I cannot answer officially for FSF or Peter Deutsch. However, I've been close to both for a long time, so I have a pretty good idea of what's going on.) In article <1990Dec17.145953.15161@rodan.acs.syr.edu> amichiel@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Allen J Michielsen) writes: > I must have a real misunderstanding here, Yes. >and this isn't exactly the place for it gnu.misc.discuss is a good place for it; comp.lang.postscript probabaly isn't (which is why I've directed followups to the former). >but it was my (clear) understanding that the GNU foundation, etc, was >clearly on the complete side of complete PD (only) work. FSF software is *not* public domain (though it only makes a difference if you plan on re-distributing it (or software based on it), in which case the GPL places some restrictions). >Some of this [money raised from various sources] is available to people like >Peter in order to (partially) compensate them for their efforts. I don't believe FSF doles out money to other than employees (and, btw, Stallman is technically a volunteer). And Peter Deutsch is not employed by FSF, but has worked on Ghostscript on his own time, without compensation (except a few "thanks you"s). Thus misinformed carping is quite out of place. >As the mac 'matured' these packages were spun out of the free system software >1 at a time, and eventually shuffled out & sold to another company for further >development & sale. SUN is doing the same thing now. Earlier system versions >included fortran, pascal, & C as FREE languages, and other software like >sunDraw, sunPaint, sunWrite, were freeware These things were never free, by any reasonable use of the term. They were *bundelled*, i.e. included in the price of the OS (which was usually included in the price of the hardware). This is "free" only in the sense of "buy one, get a second one free" - that is, not free at all. -- --Per Bothner bothner@cs.wisc.edu Computer Sciences Dept, U. of Wisconsin-Madison