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From: warner@scubed.com (Ken Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Re: Interface Builders?
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Date: 17 Dec 90 17:07:51 GMT
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    [Somebody said]
    >>If SUN wants to become really effective in this market, it should put
    >>some pressure on development environment suppliers to revise their 
    >>marketing strategies.

I heard somewhere (might just be a fabrication) that Sun did ask PP to adjust
their prices so that the price for the Sun version was not disparate from the 
prices for other platforms ... and PP did.  They made all prices the same, at
the Sun's platform price.  

    [Somebody else said]
    >Anyway, if ParcPlace can get their prices to Digitalk's levels it'd
    >be a hard thing to beat.

Wasn't it already that way?  Was anyone beating down their doors?  I like
Smalltalk alot.  I would prefer to program in Smalltalk over any other
environment.  But Smalltalk is not going to be mainstream.  For a programmer,
the leap to Smalltalk from conventional procedure oriented languages is too 
great.  Most companies can't afford the time to retrain.  C++ will be
mainstream because it's a short hop from C.  What I see happening is that 
Objectworks for C++ could be the model for other C++ development environments.
If the price is adjusted to a more reasonable level.  

BTW:  What do people think about Objectworks 4.0?  I've looked at it on the Mac
and am ambivalent toward it.  The new interface looks like it was designed by a
graphic artist instead of a programmer (is this good?).  I like the idea of
separate windows but separate windows only clutter up the screen even more.  

Ken Warner