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From: pjs269@tijc02.uucp (Paul Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.org.eff.talk
Subject: Re: "Bad" backups
Message-ID: <1990Dec20.145528.14653@tijc02.uucp>
Date: 20 Dec 90 14:55:28 GMT
References: <1990Dec3.074612.42317@vaxb.acs.unt.edu>
Organization: Texas Instruments, Johnson City, TN
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From article <1990Dec3.074612.42317@vaxb.acs.unt.edu>, by cirby@vaxb.acs.unt.edu ((C. Irby)):
> In article <1990Dec03.034248.21073@ddsw1.MCS.COM>, zane@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Sameer Parekh) writes:
>> 
>> 	You say that they don't knock so therefore, stuff kept in RAM
>> wouldn't be lost when they took it.  Yet I haven't heard of any
>> raids where the raiders did a memory dump before they took the computers.
>> (Having to unplug it along the way.)
> 
> ..you have to remember that the Feds aren't very sophisticated on this.
> 
> Heck, they couldn't even figure out how to use a set of keys to open
> the filing cabinets encountered during Sun Devil.  Instead of opening
> them in a normal fashion (with an offered set of keys), they used
> crowbars...
> 
> Really enhances my faith in their ability to find stuff in RAM.
> 
> Or ROM.
> 
> Or on disk (I have this image of some guy in a cheap suit sitting there
> holding floppies up to the light: "Nope.  Nothing on this one... or this
> one... or this one either!  They must have erased these things- I can't
> find any printing on *any* of them...")
> 
I remember that Len Rose wrote that he had to pack up the computers for the
Feds.  They were ready to throw them into the back of a moving van and take
off with them.  Just imagine the unparked winchester disk head banging into
the disk all the way to the police station.  When the disk didn't work, they
probably blame it on a boobytrap, and honestly believe their own story!

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Paul Schmidt - pauls@kk4fs.uucp