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From: john@qip.UUCP (John Moore)
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Subject: Re: Face it, Abernathy is clueless (was Re: JSC phone ripoff
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Date: 20 Dec 90 19:07:06 GMT
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In article <1990Dec10.042944.1860@lavaca.uh.edu> jet@karazm.math.uh.edu (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
]
]I talked to Abernathy on the phone soon after his big "porn on
]the internet" story.
]
]I tried to explain to him several times that USENET is *not* the
]Internet, and that they aren't even the same sort of thing. (One's
]a network, one's information.)
]
]And he said something to the effect of "yes, but they are they same
]thing, really."
]
]He went on to say that "he was on the Internet".  Well, chron.com
]is a uucp-only site to uunet, and Abernathy has an 8bit apple that
]somehow gets mail via the pro-something network (which has a gateway
]to USENET and email)...   I explained that he was not on "the Internet",
]and told him what the Internet was (again, including mention of
]being able to ping, telnet and ftp), and he still insisted he was on
]the Internet and that the Internet was the same as USENET.
]
In this sense I tend to agree with Abernathy. We are a uucp site, but
most of our feeds come to us via the internet, and I exchange a lot
of email through the internet. Since many gateways exist between
the internet and usenet, it is IMHO reasonable to consider them to
be one big net. True - the modes of transfer and interaction are
different. Usenet doesn't have TCP utilities (finger, ftp, etc).
But - from the point of view of transportation of "pornography", I
am reasonably sure that the "pornography" that we and many other
usenet sites receive comes over the Internet. I think you are picking
at a nit and missing the important point.



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