Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!abvax!iccgcc!kambic From: kambic@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com Newsgroups: comp.software-eng Subject: Re: separate SW testing newsgroup Message-ID: <2524.2770eadc@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> Date: 20 Dec 90 21:46:20 GMT References: <5512@taylord> <1990Dec12.213754.27370@ashtate> <5789@catfish10.UUCP> <916@pdxgate.UUCP> <278@smds.UUCP> Lines: 19 In regards to the question of a separate newsgroup for testing, this would be a counterproductive move. It is actually impossible to separate testing activity from development activity. Consider putting software development within the framework of the scientific method. Any hypothesis (spec, design, code, subsystem, system) is liable to verification before it becomes accepted as usable. Up until then it is only theoretically valid. Whether this verification comes from inspections, paper execution, design analyzers, testing, or actual use in the application (all subject to their own problems), is not the issue. Any one of these items is a proposed solution until verified by experiment. The fact that it works in the real world is important, not that it is proposed to do something. So I don't think you can separate the two, nor do I think that you want to. Developers and testers are two facets of the same stone, with different but complementary viewpoints. GXK standard disclaimer