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From: harry@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com (Harry Phinney)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Questions about HPUX 8.0, X11R4, HP policy
Message-ID: <101950174@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com>
Date: 18 Dec 90 23:40:16 GMT
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Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
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Jim Sadler writes:
>   But why doesn't HP provide the untested code
>   as "user supported" ?

We've tried something like this in the past (the SE support tape), and
we may do something similar in the future.  Our support organization(s)
have expressed reservations about such things, stating that customers
expect support for anything and everything we ship regardless of
labeling.  While I personally feel we should provide such a package, I
can't guarantee it will happen.  We are trying to accomplish much the
same goal with the ftp-able X stuff on hpcvaaz.cv.hp.com.  

>   This is the first time that I
>   have heard why HP doesn't ship certain libraries, up till now I
>   thought someone was makeing capricious and arbitrary decisions on what
>   to not included with HP-UX.  Is the above reason why certain berkley
>   utilities and librarys are missing ?

I suspect that this is the reasoning, although I don't have first hand
knowledge in the case of Berkeley stuff.  While I personally have no
explanation for the current lack of things like bcopy(), index/rindex,
etc., I believe the situation will improve some with HP-UX 8.0.

>	2.  Please, Please don't take my or anyone else postings
>	personally.  Most of the time the reason I make critical type
>	postings is because I can't get the real information anyother
>	way and I hope it might influence someone to correct my perceived
>	problem.

I can't remember ever being offended by one of your postings.  I am more
than willing to listen to criticism and certainly try to learn from it.
I recognize that the previous poster has some legitimate complaints and
problems, but for me they tended to get lost within the unusually large
amount of flames contained in the posting. 

Harry Phinney   harry@cv.hp.com