Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!hplabs!hpda!hpcupt1!jamiller From: jamiller@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (Jim Miller) Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp Subject: Re: Re: 040 NeXT (was:Performance of HP/Apollo 9000/425t???) Message-ID: <-286539934@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com> Date: 20 Dec 90 17:29:20 GMT References: Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino Lines: 41 >I would define a personal workstation to be Unix(memory protection, **** >virtual memory, networking, etc -- i.e. a "real" OS), workstation >performance, and a GUI(and apps) as friendly as the Mac's GUI(and >apps). > >-Mike Mike puts in a definition for Unix, but many people say "Unix" and mean it. So I'm going to comment on the use of Unix, if people always said "a real OS" instead of "Unix", the following would not be valid. That said, I say: While "...Unix" may seem true, I seems to me like defining a car as a 4-cycle gas piston driven Ford that ... which by definition eliminates steam, electric, or desiel "cars" from being a car. If YOU define a workstation as "Unix", I believe you are going to be very supprised at all the "stupid" people who will someday be buying workstations that aren't workstation (because they don't run Unix) -- they will be buying CAD/CAM/etc on a hot machine that supports standards. Question: for what reason does a customer/end-user care if it's Unix or not? Answer(?) because he's a techie with more interest in the tool that the job it's supposed to do? I.E.: it has to be a 4-cycle gas car because I don't believe in ... or .. because it can't do x ... or ... The other night I was debugging korn shell scripts on my PC (MKS's toolbox) Does that make my DOS box under WINDOWS Unix? Why do I care? If the tools I want work on my machine, *I* say, I don't care what it is. I think by misdefining what a workstation is will only bring grief and ridicule. jim - the winner of the Unix-OS/2 wars will be: MS-DOS 7.0 ! - miller jamiller@hpmpeb7.cup.hp.com (a.k.a James A. Miller; Jim the JAM; stupid; @!?$$!; ... ) Anything I say will be used against me ... But my company doesn't know or approve or condone anything of mine here.