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From: glmwc@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Matt Crowd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: The New Macs: Greedy Compromises?
Message-ID: <1990Dec17.094323.7146@marlin.jcu.edu.au>
Date: 17 Dec 90 09:43:23 GMT
References: <1990Dec4.092217.26859@cs.ucla.edu> <47110@apple.Apple.COM> <1990Dec5.072931.4079@cs.ucla.edu>
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In article <1990Dec5.072931.4079@cs.ucla.edu> lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange) writes:
>In article <47110@apple.Apple.COM> das@Apple.COM (David Shayer) writes:
>>FLAME ON:  Isn't that interesting?  When Next charges so much for a
>>machine that you couldn't afford one even if you sold your sister into
>>white slavery, its understandable because its "production quality".  
>>When Apple does it, they're a bunch of greedy capitalist bastards.
>>
>>David
>
>My, my.  A little touchy, aren't we?
>
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>
>Of course, if you're a person that needs that kind of quality, you better
>get a IIfx and attempt to equip it similarly.  That will be $7250 (you want
>a decent hard disk, right?) for the IIfx, plus $1350+$380 for the
>8-24gc card (not nearly as fast as the 80 MIP i860 on the NeXTDimension
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This figure is garbage.  The i860 can manage 66 MFLOP PEAK in a 
special type of tight loop.  Usually it averages 10-12 MFLOP.  Integer
performance is around 1 instruction/cycle, ie 33 Mhz = 33 MIPS. Note:
this is a figure for RISC MIPS which does not compare with CISC MIPS,
also this figure is higher than real life performance depending on
cache hits etc.   

>
>Now, if people would stop making these inflammatory and patently wrong
>comments about the NeXT, this thread could stop.  Defending a company's

Good point, shame you didn't take your own advice. NeXT people seem
to infect Mac and Amiga groups at the moment...

Disclaimer : I could be wrong if the NeXTDimension happens to have
an i860 at around 100Mhz, but I really doubt this. (And I doubt
any RAM could keep up with this anyway)

>
>- Trent Lange
>


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Matt Crowd       Amiga Man
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