Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!mips!news.cs.indiana.edu!msi.umn.edu!noc.MR.NET!gacvx2.gac.edu!gacvx2.gac.edu!scott From: scott@mcs-server.gac.edu (Scott Hess) Newsgroups: comp.sys.next Subject: Re: 2.0: Initial Reactions Message-ID: Date: 18 Dec 90 05:51:56 GMT References: <4490@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College Lines: 50 Nntp-Posting-Host: mcs-server.gac.edu In-reply-to: simsong@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU's message of 14 Dec 90 00:52:10 GMTLines: 50 In article <4490@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU> simsong@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Simson L. Garfinkel) writes: * Stuart 2.0 doesn't work properly. It leaves turds at the bottom of each line on redisplay. This is odd, and kind of flies in the face of binary compatiability. Well, at least it works. There are some weirdisms in the layout of the Courier font. I think Ohlfs shoudl still work. I'll release a 2.0 specific Stuart in January (in fact, Stuart2.0 is the last 1.0 Stuart . . .) * I'm still using Stuart 2.0, however, because the insert-line/delete-line functions in Terminal are a little broken. You probably won't notice the problem unless you use EMACS. If you use EMACS (most of the people at NeXT don't, by the way), you'll get screwed alot --- especially if you scroll one-line-up or one-line-down a lot. (I have lisp functions that do this, bound to ^Z and meta-control-Z). Hmm. That shouldn't happen, because Terminal and Stuart2.0 are mostly the same. I wonder what I did right :-). * Speaking about META, the people at NeXT who made Terminal work don't seem to understand that META-F is not the same as . The problem, again, is EMACS. If ALT-F transmits ESC-F instead of META-F (that is, an F with bit-8 set, or ASCII 0xb6), you can't use ALT-F to terminate an incremental search. Instead, the first ESC gets gobbled by the incremental search and it goes into regular-search (and who uses that?) That's just one example. You should be able to set the hi-bit for Meta from Preferences. If not, then they changed the app since I last saw it. * Edit is now in Retained mode, not Buffered mode. As a result, it flashes, but it draws faster. Be nice if you could set this. You probably won't see the flashing on an 040. Actually, I think this is a feature of the Text object. If the windows were really in Retained mode all the time, the scrollbar would look terrible (seriously, put a scrollbar in a Retained window.) This brings up another feature: apparently, you can change the backing of a window on the fly. So, the Text object can change the backing to Retained for scrolls . . . don't ask me how (I've not seen the docs, yet.) -- scott hess scott@gac.edu Independent NeXT Developer GAC Undergrad "Tried anarchy, once. Found it had too many constraints . . ." "Buy `Sweat 'n wit '2 Live Crew'`, a new weight loss program by Richard Simmons . . ."