Path: utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!timbuk!cs.umn.edu!thornley From: thornley@cs.umn.edu (David H. Thornley) Newsgroups: comp.ai Subject: Re: The Bandwidth of the Brain Message-ID: <1990Dec25.144305.8590@cs.umn.edu> Date: 25 Dec 90 14:43:05 GMT References: <1990Dec18.181935.23319@watdragon.waterloo.edu> <37111@cup.portal.com> <37134@cup.portal.com> <10340@darkstar.ucsc.edu> Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis - CSCI Dept. Lines: 28 In article <10340@darkstar.ucsc.edu> foetus@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (71030000) writes: > > >The brain is not a computer. It is, however, the most complex and >little understood thing that so many (but not all :-)) people have in >common. In this respect, it is like a computer. >But: >Back in the days when a telephone switchboard (or even Thaddius Cahills >fabled Tellharmonium) was the most complicated, technologically >advanced task machine, people compared that to a brain. >Fact is, we've all just been fooling ourselves. >Anyboby get what I'm saying? > Yeah, but a computer can simulate a switchboard, given the right inputs and outputs, but a switchboard can't simulate a computer. (I could be wrong - anyone ever come up with a Turing machine simulator for a switchboard?) The point is that a computer is a general device in the way that a switchboard isn't. Therefore, if it is possible to model a brain with digital computation it is possible, if not optimum, to use a sufficiently powerful computer of modern design. If it is possible to model a brain with analog computation, we can simulate that with precise enough digital. Basically, if there is nothing mystical about a system, and we understand a system well enough, we can simulate it on a computer, but probably not on a switchboard. DHT