Xref: utzoo comp.ai:8314 sci.bio:4223 sci.psychology:3956 alt.cyberpunk:5475 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!psuvax1!psuvm!cunyvm!ndsuvm1!plains!person From: person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett G. Person) Newsgroups: comp.ai,sci.bio,sci.psychology,alt.cyberpunk Subject: Re: The Bandwidth of the Brain Message-ID: <7331@plains.NoDak.edu> Date: 29 Dec 90 07:58:42 GMT References: <37034@cup.portal.com> Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo Lines: 56 In article <37034@cup.portal.com> mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) writes: >There is a common myth that the brain is capable of enormous computational >bandwidth -- for example that the retina sends gigabauds worth of data to >the brain. I believe the computational bandwidth of the brain is quite low, >low enough that we could simulate a brain on today's computers if only we knew >how to do it. [lots of stuff deleted] > > >I think it is obvious that the brain consists of many agencies which are >"on call", but very few agencies which are simultaneously active. Our >remarkable ability to remember millions of minor facts, or recall some >minor event which occurred many years ago (and which one hasn't thought >about for many years) is no more remarkable than the ability of a phone book >to record the names and addresses of millions of people or the ability of >the disk drives at TRW to store millions of credit histories. But... this isn't thought or consciesneess(sp) which is what you would have to simulate to do a good job of making a "computer brain" You worngly assume that what makes a brain a brain is merely its ability to transmit data across neurons. This is completely wrong. The brain functions on a level where the whole is greater than the sum ofthe parts. Math, reading,fact-retainning skills, and motor-skills work together to produce a functioning brain. > >The evidence suggests that the parts of the brain that are active >during any short span of time provide very low computational bandwidth; their >power comes from the fact that many such parts are available to be used. >I don't use my math parts while making dinner, I don't use my cooking parts >while writing this Usenet posting. And I haven't used my Morse code parts or >my German-language parts much at all in the last 20 years. See above. I think that the brain is a lot more complex than you are stating. Its the most complex organ in the human body. One might say that the brain defines what we are. As a quick example, I'm posting to usenet right now, I'm hungry, so I'm thinking about what I can cook. I'm using my math skills to figure our how mych more I need to type so that news won't bitch at me about including more text than I type in. I dont speak German, but I am using my language skills to enter this text. -- Brett G. Person North Dakota State University uunet!plains!person | person@plains.bitnet | person@plains.nodak.edu