Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!unix.cis.pitt.edu!pitt!willett!ForthNet From: ForthNet@willett.pgh.pa.us (ForthNet articles from GEnie) Newsgroups: comp.lang.forth Subject: Finding a Forth for the 8051/8031 Message-ID: <2184.UUL1.3#5129@willett.pgh.pa.us> Date: 31 Dec 90 13:47:45 GMT Organization: String, Scotch tape, and Paperclips. (in Pgh, PA) Lines: 37 Date: 12-28-90 (23:49) Number: 704 of 705 (Echo) To: ALL Refer#: NONE From: BOB SCHEMMEL Read: (N/A) Subj: 8051 & FORTH Status: PUBLIC MESSAGE Conf: FORTH (58) Read Type: GENERAL (+) The company I work for uses 8051's (87C51,87c52) for controlling robotic theater lighting equipment. We currently use assembly language and Basic. I am interested in experimenting with forth that can target this processor. I understand there is an embedded forth version of this IC and I think the book "Embedded Forth for Control" by some people at Sandia Labs deals with just such a chip however the people who have purchased it seem put off by the technical detail and extensive source code listings. I am curious if anyone has actually tried an embedded forth 8051 or barring that, has anyone used forth to target that chip with a metacompiler and/or native code compiler. I have LMI's PC/FORTH 3.2 and have not really learned it enough yet to use it at work but that is my objective, hence I would be curious if anyone has used LMI's 8051 metacompiler/code optimizer or such to improve the performance of there 8051 equipment. I would be especially curious about anyone who WAS using assembly language and or Basic and then tried forth for the 8051, since I would like to interest the engineering dept. here in the difference between these two software approaches. Anything in the way of first hand accounts of people who switched to forth for the 8051 would certainly carry alot of weight to interest the people here who are receptive but would like to see evidence of the difference. I don't need any convincing myself, I am merely looking for something to show the people at work. I would appreciate anyone's input. Bob NET/Mail : RCFB Golden, CO (303) 278-0364 VESTA & Denver FIG for Forth! <<<>>> ----- This message came from GEnie via willett. You cannot Reply to the author using email. Please post a follow-up article, or use any instructions the author may have included (USMail addresses, telephone #, whatever). Report problems to: dwp@willett.pgh.pa.us or uunet!willett!dwp