Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!cs.utexas.edu!evax!hill From: hill@evax.arl.utexas.edu (Adam Hill) Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: VLT Help needed Message-ID: <1990Dec31.083636.21657@evax.arl.utexas.edu> Date: 31 Dec 90 08:36:36 GMT References: <8pwxo8v@Unify.Com> <1990Dec30.163531.22293@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> Distribution: na Organization: Computer Science Engineering Univ. of Texas at Arlington Lines: 71 In article <1990Dec30.163531.22293@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) writes: >hearth@Unify.Com (Donald S. Hearth) writes: >Not anything _you_ are doing wrong at all. Like the author of LZ, the >author of VLT seems to think you should have non-standard software on >your system to use the code. Not real bright. Calm down Kent. Look at when VLT was started. Arp was destined to be a GOOD replacement for some of the ADOS, BCPL commands and provide resource tracking and programmer niceities. (File requester etc...). Now the major architect was Charlie Heath, who has been in the employ of CBM doing the asl.library for 2.0. (and perhaps (re)writing some of the C: commands). Thus the asl requester looks alot like arp :-). 2.0 DOES NOT need (or probably) work well with ARP. Also you have to realize that Willy Langeveld is NOT a PD author, he is a Physicist at SLAC employed by Stanford and the US Government. VLT was designed to provide users at SLAC with a VT100 emulator for "regular" terminal sessions and Tek support for hi-res graphical "scientific" purposes and TeX dvi preview. VLT was SPECIFICALLY designed to provide and alternative for Ambassador GL terminals (Thats where we get the function key gadgets.) As a result VLT is FREE, and one can get the TeX'ed manual from the Goverment, FREE as well. Now Willy uses Manx 3.6 (yep not 5.0d). After the next rev (~4.919) he will goto Manx 5.0d or SAS 5.10a. This will probably be decided in January. SAS is active on BIX while MANX is not, so the tip may go to SAS. He has indicated that it will be "more" 2.0 compliant, though not a 2.0 exclusive. Willy writes VLT for SLAC first and users right after that if possible. At SLAC there are projects where the reasearchers are FORBIDDEN to have mass storage on their terminals due to security restriction, so A500's are used. I will ask Willy tonite WHY and if possible WHAT arp is used for in VLT. >"ARP" is the AmigaDOS Replacement Project, a cooperative PD code effort >that got off to a fair start, but died for lack of interest with the >code still buggy and the source unavailable to fix it up. It had the >advantage that the library and executables were small and did a few nice >things that AmigaDOS didn't, the _BIG_ disadvantage that they were >incompatible with the CLI script and wildcard formats. What the >complaint means is that you don't have a LIBS:arp.library. If you're >very brave, hunt down the latest version on a BBS. If you're very smart, The latest version is 39.1 and you DONT have to use the C: commands you can install just the arp.library. There should be a installation program included that will guide you through the process >trash VLT and any other software that calls for it, instead. Perhaps that should read "Try VLT out and if you find it or arp.library causing problems remove them and get Handshake or Meshugena." >AmigaOS has long passed the point where ARP is useful or safe. Perhaps.. But DEFINITELY for 2.0x >Kent, the man from xanth. > ^ --------------------------| | Does this mean you will still be on USENET? -- adam hill hill@evax.arl.utexas.edu Make Up Your Own Mind.. AMIGA! Amiga... Multimedia NOW Most Common Phrase at DevCon '90 - "Shhhhhhh.."