Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!bu.edu!polygen!jerry From: jerry@polygen.uucp (Jerry Sheckel) Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2 Subject: Re: Computer capabilities (Re: Stellar 7 re-release) Message-ID: <942@stewart.UUCP> Date: 31 Dec 90 14:35:56 GMT References: <6203@crash.cts.com> <9907@darkstar.ucsc.edu> <14703@smoke.brl.mil> <930@redford.UUCP> <60103@microsoft.UUCP> Reply-To: jerry@stewart.UUCP (Jerry Shekhel) Organization: Polygen Corporation, Waltham, MA Lines: 42 brianw@microsoft.UUCP (Brian WILLOUGHBY) writes: > >Do you actually program in assembly? The 8088 architecture is >NOTORIOUS because it is so terrible. At least the 6502 has memory >indirection, which is something that the 68000 was missing until they >decided to add this powerful feature to the 68020. > I never said that the 8088 architecture is the greatest. In fact, it's not. There are only 4 general purpose registers, and some of them have specific uses in some of the more complex instructions (like when CX is used as a counter in the REP species). 64K segments are a pain on the 8088 (but provide the basis for true memory management on the '286, and are gone in the '386, in a compatible way, of course). STILL, this is far above the 6502's accumulator-based instruction set, without multiplication/division, memory management, etc. What is this memory indirection stuff? Are you talking about the JMP (xxxx) instruction? Zero page addressing? Give me a break. > >I think you need to do some research into the "typical PC clone". I >work for Microsoft, and we are concerned with finding a decent >minimum platform for our software which is affordable to everyone. >It is hard to even fit a 12 MHz 286 with 1 Meg RAM and 40M hard disk >into everyone's budget. > What are you talking about? The machine you described can be bought today for less than a grand. Now, how much was that IIgs? > >Brian Willoughby > -- +-------------------+----------------------+---------------------------------+ | JERRY J. SHEKHEL | POLYGEN CORPORATION | When I was young, I had to walk | | Drummers do it... | Waltham, MA USA | to school and back every day -- | | ... In rhythm! | (617) 890-2175 | 20 miles, uphill both ways. | +-------------------+----------------------+---------------------------------+ | ...! [ princeton mit-eddie bu sunne ] !polygen!jerry | | jerry@polygen.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+