Path: utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!hsdndev!wuarchive!cs.utexas.edu!yale!cmcl2!uupsi!sunic!kuling!irf From: irf@kuling.UUCP (Bo Thide') Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp Subject: Re: Re: Dream System (sort of) Message-ID: <1857@kuling.UUCP> Date: 23 Dec 90 13:57:16 GMT References: <1990Dec14.095519.14818@hellgate.utah.edu> <17780001@hpfcmgw.HP.COM> Reply-To: bt@irfu.se (Bo Thide') Organization: Swedish Institute of Space Physics, Uppsala, Sweden Lines: 48 In article <17780001@hpfcmgw.HP.COM> chan@hpfcmgw.HP.COM (Chan Benson) writes: >Previously, I posted this and then tried to delete too late... > >>> Does speed not matter? The Sparcs are much (10x?) faster. >> >>I'm willing to admit some advantages to Sun, but the Sparcstation I is >>about the same performance as the 400t. At the worst the multiplier is >>some number greater than one and less than two. It's certainly nowhere >>near ten. >> >> -- Chan >> >>If all the false statistics presented on usenet in a year were placed >>end to end they would circle the equator 50,000 times. > >OOOOOOOOOPSSSSSSSSSSSS! > >And I'm doing my part to make that happen. I should have qualified >my performance statement with the word "integer". The SparcStation I >is 3 to 4 times faster than the 400t on floating point benchmarks. > >The 68040 upgrade will pretty much close that gap. > > -- Chan To put this discussion into perspective, here are the MIPs and MFlops ratings as published by HP: Model SPU/Clock speed MIPs MFlops -------------------------------------------- 425t MC68040/25 MHz 20 3.5 433s MC68040/33 MHz 26 4.5 Both the 425 and the 433 were initially shipped with an 68040 emulator card, based on the MC68030/50 MHz delivering 12 MIPs and 0.5 MFlops. Sun are known to sometimes overestimate their MIPs rating by 10-20% and to use the inflated arithmetic mean of the Single and Double Precision LINPACK MFlops rating whereas HP always has used the uninflated Double Precision LINPACK values. I hope HP keeps their more honest policy. Bo ^ Bo Thide'-------------------------------------------------------------- |I| Swedish Institute of Space Physics, S-755 91 Uppsala, Sweden |R| Phone: (+46) 18-303671. Telex: 76036 (IRFUPP S). Fax: (+46) 18-403100 /|F|\ INTERNET: bt@irfu.se UUCP: ...!uunet!sunic!irfu!bt ~~U~~ -----------------------------------------------------------------sm5dfw