Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!att!emory!kd4nc!km4ba!alan From: alan@km4ba.UUCP (Alan Barrow) Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc Subject: Re: New Modems, Telebit Fails under impairments in PC Magazine tests Message-ID: <222@km4ba.UUCP> Date: 27 Dec 90 03:27:14 GMT References: Organization: km4ba's packet radio gateway, Atlanta GA. Lines: 44 cos@twiki.PDX.COM (Charles Sauls) writes: stuff deleted.... > Windows is not an OS in my opinion because it is not the first thing to >load up on the computer. MS-DOS has IBMBIO.COM, IBMDOS.COM, and >COMMAND.COM, but Windows does not have any files like that so you can use >it as an operating system. In my opinion, it is a PROGRAM, not an OS. It's a dessert topping! No! It's a floor polish! Relax.... (Beaming face here) New Dos5.0windows is a dessert topping and a floor polish!!! :-> In my opinion, Win3.0 is a much needed extension to make DOS more than a program loader. (deskview and others may do the same. I use windows.) I view IBM???.* as barely more than firmware extensions, maybe a loader. Command.com as a kernel/shell???? Naahh! Between MKS tools & windows I skip the braindead command.com phase entirely. (I think it still may have to be in the root dir, to keep the boot from squawking.) With ram & hard-disks as cheap as they are now, the extra resources do not bother me. ($40/MB for RAM SIPs, and $300+ for 80 MB) Now if dos was an real OP-SYS, would TSR's and RAM-CRAM ever been an issue? I think not. They would not have been needed. This all reminds me of a humorous ad I saw. Supposedly in the yr 2000, it was for the new IUYHJSDLUYGA card, with 2E128 x 2E96 resolution, and 2E64 colors. It was of course completely CGA, EGA, VGA compatable, and would work with DOS1.0 on a 4.77 Mhz 8088. Oh well, off the soapbox... :-> have fun! Alan Barrow