Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!olivea!apple!agate!shelby!siegman@sierra From: siegman@sierra.STANFORD.EDU (siegman) Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps Subject: Textures 1.3 and CM/PS Fonts 0.9: Several Steps in the Wrong Message-ID: <55@sierra.STANFORD.EDU> Date: 24 Dec 90 03:35:19 GMT Lines: 68 Direction (review; long) Summary: Expires: Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: Stanford University Keywords: I've written several msgs in the past praising TeX and especially the Textures implementation of TeX for the Mac. I've just installed the Textures 1.3 upgrade with the Computer Modern Postscript 0.9 fonts, both from Blue Sky Research in Portland OR; and I'm sorry to have to say in my opinion doing this at this time is several steps in the wrong direction. Textures 1.3 by itself would be fine. It implements a major ``final, final'' rewriting of the basic TeX program which has just been carried out by its original author Don Knuth, five years after the original ``final'' version was released. The major changes in TeX itself, however, are virtually all internal and invisible. In brief the internal structure of the program was rewritten in a major way so it will now accept 8-bit character input (256 separate characters) instead of the conventional 7-bit ASCII input, for those who have and want to use 8-bit keyboards. A few minor new capabilities were also added; but the commands and user interface of the program are otherwise virtually unchanged, and the ``new TeX'' is completely upward compatible with previous versions and their source files. You will hardly notice the difference between Textures 1.2 and 1.3 in action. The accompanying Computer Modern Postscript fonts package, labelled version 0.9, is, however, a disaster. It should have been held off the market until it could be finished and done right. First of all, installation of this package ranges from headache to nightmare. If you have Adobe Type Manager (ATM), which is recommended, it's headache; if you don't it's nightmare. To start with you _must_ install _forty_ separate Postscript font files as individual files cluttering up your System Folder. They can't go in a subfolder; they can't go anywhere else except the System Folder. You also have to make 40 separate and individual removals and possibly 40 replacements, using Font/DA Mover, to 40 of the 73 fonts appearing in 7 different TeX font suitcases in the Tex Fonts folder. This actually empties two of the standard Textures font suitcases from version 1.2, so that they then disappear; but the instructions don't tell you that. And when you're done you end up with all 40 of these Computer Modern fonts in your font menu, so that 40 names like ``cmssbx10'' and ``cmssqui8'' appear in the font menu for every application, even though you're not likely to want to use these fonts in any other application than TeX. Since they all begin with "cm" they all come after Chicago and before Courier, Geneva, Helvetica, or any of the other ordinary fonts you're likely to use; so you have to scroll through all of them to get at your usual fonts. The people at Blue Sky Research's 800 number were cheerful and helpful when called for assistance with the headaches of installation; they even called me back on their nickel. But it's not worth it; and the results leave you worse off than when you started. I recommend giving it a miss. --AES siegman@sierra.stanford.edu