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From: peirce@outpost.UUCP (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Re: SADE Sucks!  (Or which debugger do _you_ use?)
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Date: 24 Dec 90 01:34:38 GMT
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In article <1990Dec23.224128.12324@cs.uoregon.edu>, mkelly@cs.uoregon.edu (Michael A. Kelly) writes:
> 
> Are there any debuggers out there with an interface similar to the THINK
> debugger?  What do you all think about TMON or 'The Debugger', and how do they
> compare to SADE?

I use Jasik's The Debugger when I use MPW.  It's very powerfull, and
arguably the best debugger available on the Mac.  

It makes use of the .SYM files produced by MPW for Sade's consumption,
so going from Sade to Jasik should be fairly painless.

Of course, there is a steep learning curve when you first use Jasik's
Debugger.  It helps (alot!) to have someone knowledgeable with it
around to help, but the manual does have a fairly OK tutorial to get you
started on your own.

One other benefit (or downside to some people I suppose) of using Jasik's 
Debugger is that he updates it regularly.  The current version works well 
with System 7 and he recently added "memory protection" where he detects
if a given process is writing outside of where it should.

I highly recommend Jasik's debugger to anyone who will listen :-)

-- michael


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