Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!att!cbnewsl!cbnewsk!pegasus!hansen From: hansen@pegasus.att.com (Tony L. Hansen) Newsgroups: comp.text Subject: Re: International character set requirements needed Summary: SVr4 mail is 8-bit clean Keywords: 8-bit data, mail Message-ID: <1990Dec27.043500.27639@cbnewsk.att.com> Date: 27 Dec 90 04:35:00 GMT References: <7625@castle.ed.ac.uk> <1990Dec20.012516.23623@ico.isc.com> <2566@krafla.rhi.hi.is> Sender: hansen@cbnewsk.att.com (tony.l.hansen) Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 30 < From: heimir@rhi.hi.is (Heimir Thor Sverrisson) << There are some methods of data interchange, such as most email systems, << that are inherently 7-bit. It would be nice if we could just banish << them, but compatibility is an albatross. < There is nothing that tells me that email systems should be _inherently < 7-bit_. In fact here in Iceland we have to hack almost every piece of < communications software to be able to use it in our _inherently 8-bit < environment_. This < < I can see no reason at all for some stupid mailers to strip off the < eighth bit (including Interactive's version of sendmail). They don't < have to - and should not - interpret the contents of the mail they are < transmitting. This is quite different from the troff situation where a < program has to know a lot about it's input set. So why don't you guys < simply open up your mailers and be ready with a 8-bit clean version by < the end of 1991! 1991? Why not now? The System V release 4.0 mail program is completely 8-bit clean! (If you can find anyplace within SVr4 mail which isn't, I'll personally guarantee that the next version of mail which comes from UNIX System Laboratories will have a fix for the problem.) By the way, the SMTP protocol doesn't permit 8-bit data. This limits mailers which must send mail using that protocol. Tony Hansen att!pegasus!hansen, attmail!tony hansen@pegasus.att.com