Path: utzoo!mnetor!tmsoft!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!swrinde!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!ncar!ico!rcd From: rcd@ico.isc.com (Dick Dunn) Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386 Subject: Re: '386 Unix Wars Summary: the various prices of memory Keywords: sco unix interactive wars Message-ID: <1990Dec21.214440.20985@ico.isc.com> Date: 21 Dec 90 21:44:40 GMT References: <33791527@bfmny0.BFM.COM> <2812@cirrusl.UUCP> <350@metran.UUCP> <1990Dec20.233843.28559@nstar.rn.com> Organization: Interactive Systems Corporation, Boulder, CO Lines: 36 larry@nstar.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes: > tneff@bfmny0.BFM.COM (Tom Neff) writes: ... > >Anyway, memory is so damn cheap these days... ... > My beef is that I can only put 12 megs in my machine without causing > problems with the multiport boards ... Larry's problem is one of a larger class, which says that memory upgrades are not necessarily cheap and trivial. While it's true that you can almost go to the corner grocery and buy SIMMs at $50/Mb, come home, plug 'em in to a modern motherboard, fire up and go, there are cases where "just add more memory" doesn't work now, and more cases where it won't work in the future: - Larry's example--memory-I/O problems limits max memory. - Common SX boards are limited to 8 Mb. That may not seem too bad now, but (a) it's a hard limit for those boards and (b) there's no indication that kernel bloat is slowing. - Large installations: It may be no big deal to add 4 Mb ($200) each to a few machines...but what if you've got a thousand machines in the field to upgrade? - Memory for older machines/motherboards can be very expensive. The wonder of memory < $50/Mb becomes less wondrous if you have to spend $1000 on a new motherboard to get it. - Memory-intensive applications: If you're using your machines for something real, and it happens to need a lot of memory, sucking up that memory for the kernel may either push you into heavy paging or reduce the size of the largest problem you can solve. The incremental cost of adding a little waste to the kernel can be very high. But perhaps the reason I find the ever-increasing kernel size so galling is not so much that it creates certain problems as that it's entirely un- necessary... -- Dick Dunn rcd@ico.isc.com -or- ico!rcd Boulder, CO (303)449-2870 ...Mr. Natural says, "Use the right tool for the job."