Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!snorkelwacker.mit.edu!bloom-beacon!eru!hagbard!sunic!dkuug!resam!andrew From: andrew@resam.dk (Leif Andrew Rump) Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look Subject: Re: RED & GREEN BANANAS...XView/motif/Xt.. & XView Message-ID: <1990Dec27.192254.1471@resam.dk> Date: 27 Dec 90 19:22:54 GMT References: <1990Dec20.134254.7401@vax1.tcd.ie> <1990Dec20.134744.7402@vax1.tcd.ie> Organization: RESAM Project Office, SAS, CPHML-V Lines: 62 In <1990Dec20.134254.7401@vax1.tcd.ie> cemurphy@vax1.tcd.ie writes: >I have just got my hands on a Sun SPARC IPC and want to develop an application >in XView. I am quite naive about it all. Help. Sure! >I believe that XView comes with the IPC and I am waiting for the delivery of >the developers toolkit that allows you to visually place buttons, etc where >you want them and will then generate template c code for the windowing aspects >of your application. Don't expect to much from Guide! If you want to create a "small" application with a "small" number of buttons, menues, etc. and a "small" number of windows then try it yourself - it's very easy in XView. Larger applications - well be prepared for some very hard work with Guide - it helps you making windows - that's it! >Can anybody give me any good sources of referneces on XView? With XView is some book from O'Reilly & Associates, Inc. It's heavy stuff but try all the examples in vol. 7 and you may understand. Also have a look at the Open Look style guide. >Can somebody make it clear to me the differeneces between all these various >toolkits that exist for the X windows system? Is it that XView is in >competition with other toolkits such as motif and Xt? Don't these 'sit-on-top- >of' Xlib? Will I need to gain a good knowledge of Xlib? >Perhaps someone could suggest a base set of references for me (a beginner). In <1990Dec20.134744.7402@vax1.tcd.ie> cemurphy@vax1.tcd.ie continues: >I forgot to ask: >WHat is X11.....is it Xlib? (wow! I'm stupid!) >Thanks Cormac! Hmm. This is my 0.05 DKR worth! First there is X (your are running version 11, release 4 = X11R4) On top of X is Xlib, ... for the people with hair to their shoulders On top Xlib is XView, Xt, Motif, ... for people that still think digital watches is a neat idear... XView at least handles only you menues, buttons, ... but if you do it right your programs have (almost) an OpenLook(tm) look & feel (no it's not a program - it is how it look like and respond to you mouse clicks!). You must learn some Xlib to make drawings - but vol. 7 gives some hints. To completely globber you mind: The whole package you get from Sun with XView, NeWs, ... is called OpenWindows(tm) _not_ OpenLook - remember. Andrew Leif Andrew Rump, AmbraSoft A/S, Stroedamvej 50, DK-2100 Copenhagen OE, Denmark UUCP: andrew@ambra.dk, phone: +45 39 27 11 77 / Currently at Scandinavian Airline Systems =======/ UUCP: andrew@resam.dk, phone: +45 32 32 51 54 \ SAS, RESAM Project Office, CPHML-V, P.O.BOX 150, DK-2770 Kastrup, Denmark > > Read oe as: o / (slash) and OE as O / (slash) < <