Path: utzoo!attcan!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!samsung!rex!uflorida!mailer.cc.fsu.edu!sun13!vsserv.scri.fsu.edu!sandee From: sandee@vsserv.scri.fsu.edu (Daan Sandee) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Re: Red-Breasted Sapsucker questions Message-ID: <1724@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> Date: 21 Dec 90 01:11:12 GMT References: <3064@wyse.wyse.com> Sender: news@sun13.scri.fsu.edu Organization: Florida State University Lines: 41 In article <3064@wyse.wyse.com> benefiel@wyse.wyse.com (Daniel Benefiel xtmp x2531 dept234) writes: =On Sunday 16th I was at Wyse near 237 & N. 1st in San Jose w/ a friend =and got several good looks at my first R-B Sapsucker (actually two). The =1. White on wing--Both guides show a wing "patch". What I saw was = a long stripe along the edge (primaries?). =2. Back--Down the length of the back were three wide strips of = black w/ speckled white/black in between. The guides show = a mostly solid black back. =3. Belly--No hint of yellow that I could see. All the good looks = were when it was hugging a tree, but the guides lead you to = believe that you should definitely see yellow, at least on the = sides. =4. Mustache--This guy's was long. Peterson's shows 3 examples: = juvenile (long), dagetti (medium), and ruber (short). My = bird's was at least as long as the juvenile's. (What are dagetti = and ruber, anyway?) =5. Breast--I don't think the red went very far onto the breast. =So why is my bird so different? Season? Age? Locality? Red-breasted Sapsucker (Sphyrapicus ruber) is divided into two subspecies, a northern one, S.r.ruber, and a southern one, S.r.daggetti [sic ; Peterson has a spelling error]. S.r.daggetti has more white on the back, much like Red-naped Sapsucker, and little or no yellow on the belly. All sapsuckers have white wing patches but they often just show a white line on the closed wing. Cf. - NGS Field Guide, p.269 - Audubon Master Guide (Vol 2) has a photograph on p.231 which shows a Red-br.Saps. with very little white on the wing and no yellow on the belly. - Kenn Kaufman's Field Guide to Advanced Birding. Peterson's Field Guide may be the granddaddy of them all but is no longer the last word in bird identification. On a recent trip to California I saw a sapsucker with a head which was mostly red but with clear black markings in a pattern suggesting that of Red-naped or Yellow-bellied. Must have been a hybrid. According to Kaufman, the three species hybridize frequently and the offspring may look like anything. Daan Sandee sandee@sun16.scri.fsu.edu Supercomputer Computations Research Institute Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL 32306-4052 (904) 644-7045