Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rutgers!usc!wuarchive!uunet!munnari.oz.au!metro!cluster!andrewt From: andrewt@cluster.cs.su.oz.au (Andrew Taylor) Newsgroups: rec.birds Subject: Re: bird digestion (sort of indoor) Message-ID: <1720@cluster.cs.su.oz.au> Date: 30 Dec 90 08:05:39 GMT References: <2707@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU> <3175@legs.UUCP> <277B7116.1C29@intercon.com> Organization: Dept. of Comp. Science, Uni of Sydney, Australia Lines: 37 In article <1711@cluster.cs.su.oz.au>, I write: > Size not faster metabolism is the important difference [in why small > people can go without food much longer than birds]. This doesn't make much sense, let me try again. Metabolism varies roughly with the surface area of the animal. Birds have higher metabolic rates than mammals of the same size. However I'm not sure how resting (basal) metabolic rates compare between birds and mammals. What I should have said was the reason people can fast longer than budgies is mainly because of the difference in surface area/weight ratios not because of bird/mammal differences. I'd believe the important factors in how long a bird can fast * surface area / weight (penguins win here) * surrounding temperature * adaptions of the particular species Herbivores probably aren't adapted to fasting, depending on a regular diet. Birds who feed on larger animals or carrion probably are adapted to fasting. In article <277B7116.1C29@intercon.com>, ooblick@intercon.com (Mikki Barry) writes: > A cockatoo can lose up to 20% of its body weight by not eating for one day. I'm curious to know more. What sort of cockatoo and is part of this water-loss? Cockatoos whose habitat is forest can probably depend on a regular diet. But, in the tropics at least, I would expect storms to occasionally stop them feeding for 3-4 days. I would expect arid country cockatoos (e.g. Pink Cockatoo) to be able to survive for weeks on little food as they travel in search of food in hard times but I don't know if this is the case. Andrew (who knows nothing of cage birds or how to treat them)