Path: utzoo!censor!geac!torsqnt!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!sdd.hp.com!hplabs!otter.hpl.hp.com!otter!tgg From: tgg@otter.hpl.hp.com (Tom Gardner) Newsgroups: sci.electronics Subject: Re: 116% Efficiency!!?? Message-ID: <1770027@otter.hpl.hp.com> Date: 14 Dec 90 10:21:08 GMT References: <2533@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK. Lines: 25 Don't forget, you can have machines that you supply with, say, 1kW of electricity and which put >1kW of heat into your room. The _useful_ efficiency is thus >100%. N.B. no, this is in no way a perpetual motion machine, and it does not break any of the laws of thermodynmaics.