Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!zephyr.ens.tek.com!uw-beaver!milton!james@TWG.COM From: james@TWG.COM (James Marshall) Newsgroups: sci.virtual-worlds Subject: Re: Cheap Force Feedback for VR? Message-ID: <13407@milton.u.washington.edu> Date: 18 Dec 90 23:00:45 GMT References: <12079@milton.u.washington.edu> Sender: hlab@milton.u.washington.edu Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA Lines: 37 Approved: cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu More "HOW TO CREATE VIRTUAL PRESSURE" ideas: Is there some kind of piezoelectric (?) material that rapidly expands when a voltage is applied to it? Some kind of foam, in several layers if necessary? It seems that such a material would be ideal for the pressure pockets we are looking for. Could such a material be created by applying the same voltage to all microscopic bits of the material, giving them the same charge, thus causing them to repel each other? (Well, it's a theoretical start.) If you want to try an air-pockets-and-tubes system, you might have much better luck with a hydraulic, rather than pneumatic, system (i.e. liquid rather than gas). You have much better control over exact pressures and quick pressure changes, especially if going through any tubes that you want to be narrow. Could be messy in the alpha-testing, though. :-6 Even if you use a pneumatic or hydraulic system, you can reduce the arm-borne load to wires instead of tubes, by doing the following: In each pressurized cell, have a small mechanical device shaped like an accordian that can expand itself with a little power. This would have the same effect as pumping more air or water into the cell, but would require only electrical transmission. Something like a freely-floating diaphragm. I actually think this approach would be easier than it sounds, since the mechanics involved are pretty simple. Good luck to whoever makes this work, and especially who tests it out first (visions of mangled hands dance in my head). -James Marshall james@twg.com (e-mail is much surer to get a response than Net News)