Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!usc!orion.oac.uci.edu!ucivax!gateway From: msw@unix.cis.pitt.EDU (Matt S Wartell) Newsgroups: soc.feminism Subject: Re: equal pay interesting statistic Summary: correlation is not causation Keywords: statistics causation correlation salary Message-ID: <73709@unix.cis.pitt.edu> Date: 30 Dec 90 21:39:53 GMT References: <93640@aerospace.AERO.ORG> <1990Dec8.214629.14521@cbnewsk.att.com> Organization: University of Pittsburgh Lines: 24 Approved: tittle@ics.uci.edu Nntp-Posting-Host: zola.ics.uci.edu Jim Baranski cites a radio program: While women in general make ~$.69 for every ~$1.00 that men make, on the same scale, married men make ~$1.30, and single women make ~$1.10... Susan Hallander responds: ... Could it be that the raise-dolers figure that single men don't need as much money as their married counterparts because they aren't supporting a family, and single women need more money then married women because they aren't being supported by anyone. I bet raise-dolers are generally married men. Susan assumes that the rates of pay are _caused_by_ the gender and marital status of the worker; the statistics above are correlational, not causal. An alternate hypothetical explanation could be that married men seek training and positions that allow them to support a family and single women do the same in order to support themselves. Married women may opt for less stressful, lower paying jobs because they have the second income to augment their own. I am not asserting that there is no gender bias in salary, just presenting a statistical caution. (Remember 95.378% of all statistics are made up). -- matt wartell, university of pittsburgh msw@unix.cis.pitt.edu